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It's "Hero's Girlfriend", not "Heroes Girlfriend". Unless she was a character on another show, in which case it would be "Heroes Girlfriend". Please make a note of it.

Also, killing her? Totally not cool. Happy endings can be ironic, too.

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Date: 2008-07-20 07:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] 530nm330hz.livejournal.com
Actually, one of the things I disliked about this was that killing Penny off was too pat, too predictable (for the Whedon universe).

What if she'd made a fully aware decision to go with Hammer? "Yeah, he's shallow, and you really care, but man, he has a hammer, y'know?"

Now that would have blindsided all of us.

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Date: 2008-07-21 12:54 am (UTC)
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Dude, that would have been AWESOME.

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Date: 2008-07-21 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ertchin.livejournal.com
I really feel like it's almost a joke at this point. If Whedon was tapped to make a documentary on the planet Mars, I would fully expect him to find a way to strangle a puppy at the end of it.

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Date: 2008-07-21 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirisutogomen.livejournal.com
Yeah, that would have blindsided us because it would have been totally out of character, and that's not good storytelling, that's just making stuff up. Surprises should not be unexpected due to being illogical.

Anyway, I liked it.

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Date: 2008-07-21 02:26 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] 530nm330hz.livejournal.com
Dr H idolized her, but she seemed a bit of a twit to me. It wouldn't be out of character --- what character we'd gotten so far, anyway --- for her to turn out to be a bit shallower than he thought.

And if JW had wanted that to be the twist, he would have been able to draw Penny's character differently in the first place, if necessary, so it wouldn't have been as illogical as you say.

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Date: 2008-07-21 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirisutogomen.livejournal.com
Sure, if Penny's character had been drawn differently, your suggestion would have been a pretty interesting twist to pull on us, and would make plenty of sense.

As written, I didn't actually think she was shallow. Naive, innocent, polyannaish, gullible, sure.

(Speaking of which, I do think her dying line helped avoid the cliche a bit.)

My goodness, are we actually discussing whether a musical was too pat or predictable?

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