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May. 17th, 2011 06:49 am
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On today's NYT Op-Ed page, Mahmoud Abbas makes the case for why the UN should recognize a Palestinian state in September. It was egregious even by the standards of what the Palestinian leadership usually says to the West; on the other hand, it was good for him to say to us what he says to his own people.

Let's look. He starts by talking about the 1947 UN vote to divide British Mandate Palestine into two states: Israel and Trans-Jordan (now Jordan):

Shortly thereafter, Zionist forces expelled Palestinian Arabs to ensure a decisive Jewish majority in the future state of Israel, and Arab armies intervened.

"Arab armies intervened?" That's an interesting way to phrase it. How about "Minutes after the founding of the state of Israel, Arab armies attacked from all sides in an attempt to destroy the newborn state. Many Palestinians fled the land, intending to return after the Arabs had killed all the Jews; when Israel instead managed to survive, these Palestinians found themselves unable to return and unwelcome in the Arab states to which they had gone to wait out the war."

Yes, it's more complex than we were taught in Hebrew school in the 1970s. But it's certainly not true that Arab armies "intervened" in 1948 to address a humanitarian crisis.

Indeed, it was the descendants of these expelled Palestinians who were shot and wounded by Israeli forces on Sunday as they tried to symbolically exercise their right to return to their families’ homes.

"Symbolically exercise their right to return?" That's a pleasant way of putting it. From the pictures I saw, though, it looked more like a coordinated attempt to breach the internationally recognized borders of a sovereign country (we're not talking the Green Line here) with the intent to cause violence and attack its citizens. In other words, it was a hostile invasion. True, an invasion can be considered symbolic.

Minutes after the State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948, the United States granted it recognition. Our Palestinian state, however, remains a promise unfulfilled.

The word that's missing here is Jordan, which was the other state formed the partition of Mandate Palestine. Jordan is the fulfillment of the promise to the Palestinians. Well, except that the Jordanian government didn't actually fulfill its commitments. But you don't hear Abbas or the Palestinians publicly complaining about how they were expelled from Jordan after Black September.

We go to the United Nations now to secure the right to live free in the remaining 22 percent of our historic homeland

Again with the ignoring of Jordan.... [Edited to add: I just checked the numbers. 22% of Mandate Palestine is everything from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean. He's not ignoring Jordan. He's claiming all of Israel as well as the "West Bank".]

We cannot wait indefinitely while Israel continues to send more settlers to the occupied West Bank and denies Palestinians access to most of our land and holy places, particularly in Jerusalem.

Excuse me? Who controls access to the Temple Mount? You have five-times-daily religious services on the holiest site in Judaism, and we can't even go up there, and you have the chutzpah to claim that the Jews deny the Palestinians access to "most of [your] holy places, particularly in Jerusalem"?!?

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I know that a "two-state solution" is the only prospect for peace. I pray fervently for peace. But when I read this article by Abbas, my heart sank, because this is not the way to make peace. Israel is not completely blameless, certainly, but that is not the case that Abbas is making.

If this is the narrative that the Palestinians are teaching their children and the world, what chance does peace written on a scrap of paper have?

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Date: 2011-05-17 12:11 pm (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (Default)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
these Palestinians found themselves unable to return and unwelcome in the Arab states to which they had gone to wait out the war.

This is the part that really gets me. Jordan was supposed to be the other state in the *original* two-state solution but it was given to a younger-son prince instead. Or as you said:

The word that's missing here is Jordan, which was the other state formed by the 1948 partition plan. Jordan is the fulfillment of the promise to the Palestinians. Well, except that the Jordanian government didn't actually fulfill its commitments. But you don't hear Abbas or the Palestinians publicly complaining about how they were expelled from Jordan after Black September.

AAAAAAAAAAAARGH.

Most Palestinians are really nice people who've been fed a line of BS about the state of Israel since the Zionist movement began, and about Jews in general for far longer than that. But there's no way I can see to fix it.

And after all of this time of hearing the Palestinian leadership say "we're going to push Israel into the sea" and things as you quote above, there are far too many American Jews who feel that the Palestinians should be treated harshly, which just completes the vicious circle...

*sigh*

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Date: 2011-05-17 01:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cellio
Yeah. The Arab world created the Palestinian "refugee" situation and blames Israel for their own transgressions. And it's not like anybody is talking about compensating all the Jews who were kicked out (actually kicked out, not leaving to sit out an invasion by their side) of their homes in the surrounding area.

A two-state solution is the only way that Israel will be able to survive, but until we see some reason to believe that it will work out better than the last two-state solution, I'm not sure it's in Israel's interest to help create a sovereign Palestinian nation. It'll be even harder to control incoming terrorism when reacting is an international incident, there's no reason to believe the Palestinians (or Arabs in general) will dial down the incitement, and the UN will not suddenly grow a spine and a sense of right and wrong.

Sigh.

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Date: 2011-05-17 02:38 pm (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (Default)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
Well, Begin *did* invade Lebanon, so somehow I don't think international boundaries will be an issue... then again, the invasion of Lebanon was when erstwhile allies started looking at Israel cross-eyed.

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Date: 2011-05-17 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sethg
If I remember From Beirut to Jerusalem¹ correctly, the invasion of Lebanon grew out of (a) the PLO setting up a state-within-a-state in South Lebanon; (b) one Lebanese faction realizing that it could get the upper hand over its rivals by convincing Israel to come in.

¹Friedman used to be a pretty good journalist; unfortunately, he got promoted from Journalist to Arch-Pundit....

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Date: 2011-05-17 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vettecat.livejournal.com
Very depressing. My question is, does he actually believe all this, or is he saying it for PR value? Regardless, I hope they allow someone else to write a counterpoint. (Too bad there wasn't one adjacent.)

As for those pesky facts, this may be relevant here:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney

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Date: 2011-05-17 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shimshonit.livejournal.com
Very nicely written, Rhu. Of course, Jordan was originally supposed to go to the Jews too, but the Brits reneged on that to make a state for the Arabs. Well and good, but now they won't go there.

Abba Eban pointed out the fundamental inequity in trading land for peace, and Sadat has been quoted as saying, "Look, I got back the whole Sinai, and all Menachem got was a piece of paper." This is my fundamental problem with the whole land-for-peace thing, especially when withdrawing from South Lebanon and Gaza turned them into giant launching pads for mortars, missiles, and rockets. I am not in the least supportive of giving Arabs Jewish holy sites (the Old City, Hebron, Shilo) in exchange for more terrorism, and since that's all we've gotten in the past, and all we've been promised for the future, the status quo seems to be the awful situation we're stuck with.

I'm with Michael--fine-tune it and give the Times a chance to redeem itself.

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